And since I know some of you are experienced homeschoolers, and others are experienced parents, and others have a wealth of life experience upon which to draw, I'm hoping you can give me insight here.
Rhys is, you see, The Boy Who Will Not Read.
Not in the "not a bookish kind of kid" way. He loves books. He pages through them all the time, loves to be read to, falls asleep with a Calvin & Hobbes volume or a Lego catalog or the Compact Encyclopedia of Cats clutched in his grubby little mitts every night.
Not in the "reading makes no sense to me" way. He seems to actually enjoy reading to us on occasion, as long as it's a book he feels comfortable reading. And at this point, after seven full years of being read to pretty much constantly and two years of official-ish reading instruction, he is still only comfortable reading Bob Books, the Elephant and Piggie series and Go, Dog. Go! (Yes. Go, Dog. Go! Still.) But he will not even attempt reading anything to us when he doesn't feel that he can get every word right on the first try. (Except when a new Elephant and Piggie book comes out. Then he will gladly stumble, guess, contextualize and otherwise plow his way through the whole book, often pronouncing words on the first try--such as "surprise" or "lunchtime"--that I am a little astonished that he recognizes.)
And sometimes--OK, a lot of the time--I have a sneaking suspicion that he can read a lot more than he lets on. Like the other day, when he'd been silently absorbed in a Tintin book for about an hour and suddenly looked up and asked "What does C-H-A-N-G spell?" I think he had thought it was "change" but couldn't figure out how "change" would work in that context.
All righty, then. So my dilemma here is a little bit twofold:
1. I've pretty much made up my mind that I'm not going to worry too much about the not-technically-reading part. I've read about too many kids, and known too many kids, who were firm non-readers and caused their parents all kinds of frustration and sorrow until one day... poof! it all came together and they were reading fluently seemingly overnight. But still, when I look between reading-at-four Fisher powering his way through an Osprey military manual on Albatros aircraft and tripping-over-long-vowels Rhys, I get a little freaked out despite myself. So... stories? reassurances? recriminations?
2. This is really the part where I'm hoping for some feedback. Just because Rhys is reading at an early first-grade level doesn't mean he has an early first-grade level understanding. I think it must be pretty darn common for kids to have a higher receptive literacy than active literacy level. (Those are probably technical terms that I'm getting wrong. What I mean is that he can easily understand fiction or nonfiction that's read to him even when that material is on a middle- or high-school level.) So, if you've homeschooled in the same situation, how have you dealt with subjects such as science or history or math that can be pretty darn boring if dumbed down to a low reading level? Should I just try reading the material to Rhys and having him dictate responses where necessary? Is this where I should hold my nose and jump into the whole Charlotte Mason "narration" cult? Or should we cut out all that unnecessary sciencey fiddle-faddle altogether and just concentrate on getting this kid reading for reals? (Ha ha. Like I would ever do that. I'd go read his assignments to him all the way through college first.)
Tomorrow, or perhaps some other day, or perhaps never: a follow-up post on Fisher and how he's giving me fits of a whole different sort.
So we see where folks who liked elephant and piggie can recommend the next step. My younger daughter was and is such a stubborn non reader we told her we'd take herout of her school, and then she started her turn around. A big threat combined with interesting books and enforced reading time...with a reading closet makeover! Woo!
Posted by: molly | July 15, 2008 at 05:40 PM
You hear about toddlers who never say a word until they can start speaking in complete sentences. Maybe he's waiting until he's really good at it.
Posted by: Helena | July 15, 2008 at 06:45 PM
and the problem is?
let me get this straight...He knows sounds and symbols, can 'sound out' new words, you feel he has more 'inner' reading comp. than he lets on...and will occasionally read on his own (ummm, when he feels like it???) There is no known developmental/identifiable delay.Nothing organic? Can he track the letters and lines visually without getting lost or a headache? (if you haven't gone to a pediatric eye doctor ...do it...and rule it out...tracking problems are VERY common in kids) Frustrates easily if threatened with failure (omg, that part is Lauren...cries and gives up)
Seems to me, all you need to do with your 'minnie me' is find the right carrot! Does he have a current obsession? Natalie's carrot was writing her OWN stories,which lead to reading books about the subject she was writing about. Lauren's was a complete, undying fascination with turtles (she has read at least 30 books about them!).
let me know what happens...
breathe mom...breathe
Each one responds to a different reward system too.
Posted by: Stephanie T. | July 15, 2008 at 07:47 PM
My voracious reader of an oldest child didn't have reading "click" until he was in the middle of his first grade year, and then like Helena posted, he just took off into reading.
He'll get there. I know.
Posted by: Mimi | July 15, 2008 at 08:34 PM
you can email me at [email protected] and I will call you and talk to you for hours about this because WE JUST WENT THROUGH IT ALL.
Outline: kids need to read the books they feel safe reading over and over and over
an new book should pass the "five finger test"
yes, put aside other studies for now - unschool for now
find a story HE LOVES for you to read to him. Something additively good, preferably a loooooooooooooooong series. then start "traders." He reads you one of his books - yes even if its the same book of Bob the Builder over and over and over. Then you read him a chapter. Do this seemingly forever. Begin to slowly require more from his reading, a new Bob the Builder book. Another book just as easy.
He sounds like a site reader. So. You read the "easy" book to him. Then he reads it to you. You read every word he can't get - or sound it for him. He will memorise them all. (Astounding, really.)
Have him make his own books. He dictates to you. You type and bind them. He decorates them. He reads them over and over because they are his words. They become indelible - voila - site words.
Call me. We can talk.
Posted by: katherine | July 16, 2008 at 06:10 AM
Also, perfectionism is an issue with these kids. Does that sound familiar?
Love and courage to you, I forgot to say that before.
Posted by: katherine | July 16, 2008 at 06:13 AM
Also, I can forward you all the information I got from my dear friend who is an elementary educator and started her own school and is a general bad ass. She was very helpful to me. I'd be happy to share her advice with you.
Posted by: katherine | July 16, 2008 at 06:14 AM
Also, I feel you, Dog. Can you tell? Did I mention we JUST went through this? So just did. Fuck, its hard.
Posted by: katherine | July 16, 2008 at 06:15 AM
One more wee little comment. Do you read Blueyonder? I link to her from my blog. Today she blogged about this book: "A week or two ago, we hit upon a REALLY good story. The Miraculous Journey of Edward Tulane, by Kate Dicamillo." And how very very much her boys are into it. So there's another tip for ya. :) Is there a comments limit here? Are the Portland Blog Police about to come get me?
Posted by: katherine | July 16, 2008 at 07:38 AM
My stepson was like this. His teachers were concerned he had a learning disability and put him in an 'extra' class for awhile, until they decided he was just lazy. I don't know the reason for his initial lack of reading, (between ages 8-14) but at home we just kept reading fun. I read Harry Potter out loud to him every night. Then he got hooked on audiobooks. Finally, somewhere around the mid-teens he got sick of waiting for new audiobooks and went to his school library. He is never without a book nearby now. One of the biggest readers I know.
If it's just reluctance and not visual problems or something, then don't worry and offer him the reading options he enjoys. Pressure free exposure to books creates kids who love reading.
Posted by: Candy | July 16, 2008 at 07:52 AM
I hate to sound like the bad guy about the threat, but we felt like if we were paying so much for a school she couldn't keep up in, wouldn't she be happier at one that is not such a challenge? Now she stays up too late reading teen thrillers.
Posted by: molly | July 16, 2008 at 09:02 AM
Dr. Suess: Fox in Sox.
Get Rhys to try the tongue twisters with you; then take turns reading lines; then take turns reading pages. Best: make up new ones and write them and illustrate them.
Fox in Sox rewards mistakes with laughter. Making mistakes should be as much fun as getting it right.
It took a while, but Dr. Suess and I helped Curtis get over his reading fears and now he's a voracious reader and danged successful college student.
Posted by: Jac | July 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Oh, jeeeez, I have one, too! My Anna, age eight, can read just fine, thank you very much, but announces that she "HATES TO READ!!!!!" She wants us to read to her all the time, loves books, exactly as you describe. And she's a perfectionist. And more than a wee bit lazy.
Drives me crazy.
My amazing teacher friend tells me to just lie low and let her find her way. But I still "make" her read 30 minutes a day, her choice. She announces, with high girl drama, "If you want me to love reading, the worst way to make it happen is to MAEK me read, Mommy!" and huffs off into her room. Then reads for 45.
Posted by: Blue Like the Sky | July 16, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Uhhhhh...that would be MAKE.
Posted by: Blue Like the Sky | July 16, 2008 at 10:30 PM
ok i know you know all this, but you asked so:
1. don't compare your kids. you set yourself up for a world of hurt (yours and theirs) and doubt and it does nobody any good.
2. for goodness sakes, don't bother dumbing anything down. not anything. if they don't understand they will ask questions. you'll get it if it's too hard a concept for them to understand and you can come back to it. they don't have to see pic after pic of broken and bloody, but explain the facts and carry on. dumbing down in school is why you homeschool, nyet va/n'est-ce pas?
Posted by: azureavian | July 17, 2008 at 04:52 PM
Most of the kids I know (homeschoolers mostly, plus some nieces and nephews) have become fluent readers somewhere in the 2nd to 3rd grade zone, so I definitely wouldn't freak out at age 7. I also have a 7-year-old beginning-reader (and so was my daughter). As long as we're making steady progress, I'm not worried. If he reaches a point where he seems stuck, isn't making much progress and getting frustrated, I'll consider taking him to a reading specialist for an evaluation, but not at age 7, since he doesn't seem to have any particular organic issues.
The thing I wanted to weigh in on was your second dilemma about whether you should pitch all other school stuff out the window and just concentrate on reading. I don't know what other school stuff you do, but I'd advocate for liberal use of video and audio format stuff for topics he's really interested in. You want to give kids a steady diet of the stuff they find fascinating, and you don't need to read to do lots of great history, science, and math, if those are things he loves. Don't forget online videos, too--there are tons of great sites that have free online clips. If you haven't already, try PBS for starters (http://www.pbs.org/video/?campaign=pbshomepage_videoagg_link). Also, The History Channel (http://www.history.com/media.do?action=listing&sortBy=1&sortOrder=A&topic=WORLD%20HISTORY)
Posted by: Elizabeth | July 20, 2008 at 08:53 AM